"Deal Killer - Powered by Focus" (dealkiller-ii)
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"Deal Killer - Powered by Focus" (dealkiller-ii)
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Seriously, Trump is
getting people dead by spreading misleading or false information.
pip bip - choose Corrour
> Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
03/24/2020 at 08:05 |
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any reporter trying to call him out on it will be called a nasty reporter, or worse he’ll flat out deny saying it.
facw
> Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
03/24/2020 at 08:15 |
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No he cannot. He cannot shut up. He cannot stop lying. And now he seems to think that if he just ends lockdowns (which are being done at the state level anyway), the economy will bounce back and return to normal. Even if hundreds of thousands are dying of covid-19, which is what will happen if we do that before we can test and isolate properly.
Tekamul
> Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
03/24/2020 at 08:15 |
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They died for the good of Lord Dow Jones .
BannedBadBoy
> Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
03/24/2020 at 08:17 |
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you’re an idiot, the dude took fish tank cleaner!
haveacarortwoorthree2
> Tekamul
03/24/2020 at 08:19 |
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Has the sacrifice of seniors for the economy spread beyond Texas at this point?
Long_Voyager94
> Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
03/24/2020 at 08:19 |
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I mean if someone’s dumb enough to try to eat aquarium cleaner...........
PartyPooper2012
> Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
03/24/2020 at 08:23 |
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Please s top spreading fake news. Trump never told anyone to take anything . he only said he had high hopes for it. he is not a doctor and cannot prescribe anything to anyone.
When one takes medicine, s/he assumes the risk that comes with it. Every medicine has side effects. Every person reacts different.
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Tekamul
> haveacarortwoorthree2
03/24/2020 at 08:24 |
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I don’t ex pec t it to become official WH policy until the DJIA crosses 17k.
Gone
> haveacarortwoorthree2
03/24/2020 at 08:25 |
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I don’t know if he realizes it but since D
Patrick is a senior himself, he should be first. Lead the way!
Texas is going to blow up with cases. The numbers are low because tests are still hard to come by.
Cash Rewards
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 08:32 |
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He also said “The nice part is that it’s been around for a long time, so we know that if things don’t go as planned, it’s not going to kill anybody", which is untrue, and caused a run on medicine that people with Lupus need by saying this and other things that needed to be immediately corrected by his staff. Come the fuck on.
TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
> Gone
03/24/2020 at 08:35 |
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You know for a fact he’s not actually going to be the one exposing himself. He’ll be in driven in his car that is disinfected before he uses it and sitting in an office that gets
regularly disinfected.
Hi! My Name Is Rossssssss
> Cash Rewards
03/24/2020 at 08:35 |
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A t what point did he say he was talking about off the shelf aquarium cleaner, instead of prescription drugs? I know you don’t like the guy but come the fuck on,
gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> facw
03/24/2020 at 08:40 |
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FFS
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/23/trump-coronavirus-lockdown-skepticism-143800
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PartyPooper2012
> Cash Rewards
03/24/2020 at 08:41 |
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Literally from CDC website
https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resources/pdf/fsp/drugs/hydroxychloroquine.pdf
Literally says pretty much everyone can take it. Are there exceptions - of course. this is why it isn’t sitting on a shelf. It’s a prescription medicine. As in - consult with your doctor first.
Come the fuck on
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PartyPooper2012
> Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
03/24/2020 at 08:46 |
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You know... the devil might be in the details here. Your article said they took chloroquine phosphate where as CDC website calls it sulfate
I am no chemist, but taking wrong shit could get you dead.
Once again I say - stop spreading fake news.
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Cash Rewards
> Hi! My Name Is Rossssssss
03/24/2020 at 08:51 |
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Obviously these people are idiots, but we all know what they were trying to do and where they got the idea
boredalways
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 08:51 |
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How did the couple get the drugs??? I’ve yet to find an article stating how they got this medicine.
Also, I don’t understand what you meant by “Please stop spreading fake news". Who are you suggesting that is doing so?
https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article241445901.html
MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 08:54 |
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There are a lot of things to hold Trump accountable for, but to think he’s responsible for some idiots ingesting aquarium cleaner is not one of them.
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PartyPooper2012
> boredalways
03/24/2020 at 08:56 |
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1 - there is a bit of confusion if they took sulfate or phosphate - wrong medicine is poison.
2 - the OP says trump killed them by telling them to take it. Fake news. Trump never said that. Only said he had high hopes for the medicine and as of yesterday, trials with this medicine began in NY state.
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facw
> gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
03/24/2020 at 08:56 |
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Yep...
My thinking is along these lines:
Americans are asking: When can we leave our homes and go back to work? That question makes sense. But we need to ask: When will we have the testing infrastructure we need to defeat the pandemic without freezing the economy?
From this article: Don’t Halt Social Distancing. Instead, Do It Right.
If Trump wants to get things back to normal (and he should), he needs to be pounding the drum on expanded testing, and doing everything in his power to make it happen, not just deciding that things have been shut down for a while, so that’s good enough.
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PartyPooper2012
> MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
03/24/2020 at 08:58 |
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Thank you.
Some idiots can’t read and ingest everything they have in the medicine cabinet and garage. S urprisingly die. Trump gets blamed somehow.
I get that many people here dislike him, but come on.
OPPOsaurus WRX
> boredalways
03/24/2020 at 08:58 |
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i dont think they got the drug, i think they took aquarium cleaner, which is not the same thing as the medicine. I think it has some of the same ingredients , but one in made into the medicine, and the other a cleaner.
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Cash Rewards
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 08:58 |
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Tylenol is all those things, too. You can give it to infants. At the c orrect dose. Incorrect dose can be lethal. Like damn near any drug.
Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
03/24/2020 at 09:05 |
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And today, this:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/24/donald-trump-anthony-fauci-coronavirus-tension-146035
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 09:14 |
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That this couple died because Darwin Principle cannot be denied. But that does not make the news of their deaths fake.
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boredalways
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 09:15 |
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1) But was it prescribed or OTC? If the latter, would it only be available at pet supplies shop?
2) Trump is the elected leader of our country, so it would be natural for one to follow the guidance of a leader. Unfortunately for all of us, Trump is nothing but the human embodiment of Fake News — an insult and a danger to any living being that isn’t Trump.
I believe that suggesting the hyperbole and obvious anger of one’s opinion to be “fake news” is a disservice to the point you maybe trying to make.
Please reconsider the use of those words in this debate and respectfully retract them.
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> Gone
03/24/2020 at 09:15 |
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Unless your name is Rand Paul.
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Cash Rewards
> MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
03/24/2020 at 09:15 |
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These people are idiots, but they didn't want up one day and decide to eat it for no reason
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boredalways
> OPPOsaurus WRX
03/24/2020 at 09:17 |
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Sadly, I'm hoping that is the case.
ttyymmnn
> Gone
03/24/2020 at 09:18 |
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I live in Austin. It’s my understanding that, in spite of what Gov. Abbott says, tests are not easily available. The only way you can be sure to get a test is if you have been admitted to the hospital, and by then it’s too late.
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PartyPooper2012
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/24/2020 at 09:20 |
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Accusing Trump of their murder is fake news.
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PartyPooper2012
> boredalways
03/24/2020 at 09:23 |
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Sorry. No can do. Actual Malaria medicine is a prescription only medicine.
Medicine these folks took is no medicine at all but allegedly an aquarium cleaner.
Trump never gave out a prescription to anyone to take this medicine. Just because he says he has high hopes for it, one still needs prescription to get this medicine. To get prescription, one must consult a doctor.
Suggesting trump is the murdered of these people is fake news.
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 09:27 |
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I think if anything, they’re suggesting that the president was irresponsible in his statements.
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WildlyMild
> Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
03/24/2020 at 09:33 |
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He also said we’d start getting back to normal in near a week. Does not understand how transmission works apparently either.
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Gone
> ttyymmnn
03/24/2020 at 09:36 |
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Seems that way. It’s the internet and all, so grain of salt...but lots of complaints in Houston area about being denied tests/low availability. I know the criteria level was high to even get a test now long ago - like hospital admittance, recent travel to China, or direct contact . Like you can get a flu test and if it comes back, you still can’t get tested for COVID-19. Rumormill , but beli evable. IMO lots of people here have it that haven’t/can’t get testing. We’re s taying home as much as possible...
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ttyymmnn
> Gone
03/24/2020 at 09:38 |
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We will never know how many people have it or have had it. This story from Austin is a prime example.
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PartyPooper2012
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/24/2020 at 09:43 |
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They can suggest anything they wish. Free country, but what president actually said was that he had high hopes for the Malaria Medicine ( not the aquarium cleaner) .
How people interpret statements is also up to them
V8VespaStoppie
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 09:45 |
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If he never said the word hydroxychloroquine they would be alive. Stop acting like the cheeto in chief had nothing to do with it. It doesnt matter if hydroxychloroquine is safe it is still a LIE and he is the one spreading fake news. They just ended up googling and buying the wrong product and died for it because the president said a word with the name chloroquine in it.
One again! stop protecting the president's fake news.
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MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s
> Cash Rewards
03/24/2020 at 09:47 |
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I get that Trump brought it to many people’s attention...but they ingested aquarium cleaner. It’d be like someone saying drinking “dihydrogen monoxide” is good for your health and then someone drinking hydrogen peroxide and dying.
Thomas Donohue
> Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
03/24/2020 at 09:48 |
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While I also would wish he would be quiet and socially distance himself, this was a bi t more a case of Darwinism.
“the couple, both in their 60s, ingested chloroquine phosphate, an additive commonly used at aquariums to clean fish tanks.” The aquarium additive the couple ingested is not the same as the medication that has been used to treat malaria.
Not sure where they got the commercial-grade cleaner, but they should have known not to mix it with Cherry Cola regardless of who told them to.
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PartyPooper2012
> V8VespaStoppie
03/24/2020 at 09:50 |
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My President. My Country!
Couple of idiots died because ignorant, oblivious and cannot read . I am not sad.
This might end up being the biggest purge of idiots all around the world. The world will be that much better. Again, not sad.
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V8VespaStoppie
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 09:54 |
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Ex act reply I was expecting from another one of his cult followers. I guess it helps being dumb when you are also dense.
jimz
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 10:08 |
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“ fake news”
Stick it.
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jimz
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 10:11 |
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It can be safely taken AS PRESCRIBED by a doctor and verified by a pharmacist to treat SPECIFIC illnesses. It’s not tested or approved to treat this and that CDC quote does not say “go ahead and take random amounts for whatever reason you want.”
Christ, the contortions you’re doing to defend this.
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jimz
> boredalways
03/24/2020 at 10:12 |
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His cohort thinks they can make anything false just by yelling “fake news” at it.
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boredalways
> jimz
03/24/2020 at 10:16 |
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That was the point I was making -- who's side are you on, right?
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PartyPooper2012
> jimz
03/24/2020 at 10:17 |
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OK.... Either Kinja or you missed my whole point.
I am saying Neither Trump nor CDC said go ahead and take it. Both said they had high hopes for it. Testing was started yesterday in NY state.
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jimz
> boredalways
03/24/2020 at 10:23 |
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people like him are funny, in a sad way. they scream at anyone with a liberal POV as mindless and unable to think for themselves, then they turn around and just parrot everything Trump says.
BigBlock440
> jimz
03/24/2020 at 10:25 |
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You’re saying the exact same thing he’s saying....
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jimz
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 10:34 |
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Trump shouldn’t be saying anything about it at all. That’s the point everyone is trying to get into your head. And it’s not helped by headlines like this.
doesn’t speak well of people who think he can “clear” anything like that. and he HAS called it “safe” and “won’t kill anyone” which is false. Pharmaceutical versions of chloroquine are known to have a small therapeutic index (difference between an effective dose and a toxic dose.)
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boredalways
> jimz
03/24/2020 at 11:07 |
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Which is why when I question someone, I’m not just asking a question but also intentionally forcing them to think for themselves so they can answer sincerely as best as possible.
Some people get it, some people get and despise me for it. The rest, I just ignore. It's not worth the energy even in the best of times.
Mid Engine
> ttyymmnn
03/24/2020 at 11:10 |
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I had the virus three weeks ago, there were no tests available in the greater Seatt le area. I’ve stayed home for a month now, went out twice. Once to get groceries a few days ago , and yesterday to see my doctor.
My company wanted me to get checked out so that I can officially return to work . They’re worried about liability should I die from the viru s, protecting their cor p or ate asses. Doc sez I’m fine, but, nope no test for you. They don’t have enough to waste on a healthy person.
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PartyPooper2012
> jimz
03/24/2020 at 11:21 |
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Trump is trying to calm the masses who are panicked over loss of income and sense of normalcy. Saying you might have a solution that is currently being tested sounds a LOT better than saying - I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO. EVERY MAN ON THEIR OWN.
How some bozo interpreted it is a different story. I had no idea there was an aquarium cleaner with a very similar name. Mainly because I don’t have aquarium. Somehow I have enough sense to know that prescription drugs come from doctors and pharmacies, not pet stores or trunks of Cadillacs in dark alleys
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ttyymmnn
> Mid Engine
03/24/2020 at 11:22 |
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What was you experience when you were sick?
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jimz
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 11:26 |
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Maybe he should be letting the adults in the room (the CDC and FDA) talk about this stuff instead of worrying about his image.
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Mid Engine
> ttyymmnn
03/24/2020 at 11:35 |
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I posted this a week ago..
The week of February 17 th was great, I was out and in front of customers every day, ending with my first meeting @ [redacted] in Kirkland on Friday the 21st. Saturday we dropped by Costco in Woodinville to pick up a few things, it was pandemonium as people were buying stuff to prepare for extended time at home. Crazy.
Sunday February 23 rd I began to feel symptoms of a cold or flu, nothing specific just a general “don’t feel great” kinda thing. So I went outside and split three cords of wood. This general feeling of blah went on all week, with a dry cough. Tammy had the same thing, but her’s ended and she felt just fine. We both got our flu shots several months ago, so I figured I was likely getting a common cold.
Monday March 2
nd
the coughing really got going
and that changed quickly to a wet cough, the intensity/duration cranked up.
Just to keep things interesting, diarrhea decided to join the party. Not
pleasant and is it turned out, lasted throughout the week.
Tuesday brought the aches, but not like a normal flu.
Usually you feel achy all over, get the shivers, etc. This was
targeted and intense, shoulders got it first, subsided after several hours,
then back took the brunt of it, followed by ankles, etc.. it’s like the virus
goes after a part of you, does as much as it can, then moves on to another
area. This went on until Thursday.
Throughout all of this the headaches were ever
present, but they got super intense on Friday and Saturday. Fever was hovering
around 100F on Friday, crept up to 102F on Saturday. These two days were
a tsunami of symptoms, I binge watched HGTV and did nothing. Sunday
afternoon the fever was gone and the coughing dropped by 75%, all that’s left
is fatigue.
This thing
hits hard but seems to be relatively short in duration.
It’s worth noting that the medical professionals you rely on
aren’t gonna help unless your symptoms are considered serious. Pneumonia and/or
persistent high fever will get you plenty of help, otherwise stay home. In
fact, if you do decide to see your doctor they’re asking that you call ahead so
they’re prepared, I imagine they have you come in a back door or something.
If they
think
you’re positive (note, there’s no test kits
available) they’ll send you home and you’re supposed to monitor breathing &
fever, if it’s apparent that you’re in distress they will hospitalize
you. So, you’re sick and it sure feels different from a run of the mill
cold or flu, but you have no way of knowing exactly what you have. The symptoms
I had were consistent with the known Covid-19 symptoms, so I’m guessing that’s
what it was.
What we did throughout the week was focus on self treatment:
I drank about 2 gallons
of water a day
Breakfast was various
fruits, lots blueberries. Glass of pure Pomegranate juice, sometimes mixed
with orange juice.
Lunch was soup. I make
my own soups and freeze ‘em, sure came in handy.
Dinner was fish and
green salads, mostly halibut and salmon.
Before bed I took some
melatonin. It really helps you sleep
Saturday and Sunday I did absolutely nothing, binge watched television and read my Kindle. Sunday afternoon was good as the symptoms were mostly gone or greatly diminished. In hindsight I shoulda done the complete rest thing much earlier, other than that I think the steps we took were sensible. Feel free to share my adventure with anyone if it helps.
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ttyymmnn
> Mid Engine
03/24/2020 at 11:39 |
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Thanks, I hadn’t seen this. I believe that one of the huge things missing from mass media coverage of the pandemic are stories about people who got it and got over it. They are only focusing on infection rates and death tolls.
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> Mid Engine
03/24/2020 at 11:50 |
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Reports today tell us that loss of senses of taste and smell accompany many COVID cases. Did you experience a notable loss of your senses of smell or taste?
DipodomysDeserti
> Deal Killer - Powered by Focus
03/24/2020 at 11:51 |
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Inhave absolutely no problem with people dying after drinking aquarium cleaner, as long as they aren’t able to call for help afterwards. I encourage our president to keep speculating on possible cures.
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DipodomysDeserti
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 11:52 |
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People are mistaking Trump’s stock tips for health tips. Dummies.
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> facw
03/24/2020 at 11:54 |
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I think what we get a lot of from President Trump is what I would call
wishful thinkaloud
. Sometimes the wishing is for something that he wants, and sometimes for something to go away. I’m not defending the guy, just sharing what I think he is doing. And how quick some are to defend him. TDS is no respecter of ideology.
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Mid Engine
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
03/24/2020 at 12:11 |
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Not really, I don’t recall taste or smell being effected. Hard to say, when you’re feeling like shit it’s easy to overlook symptom s though
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> Mid Engine
03/24/2020 at 12:15 |
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I heard a report that there was a test that would tell if you’ve had the disease in the past . Not anywhere near readily available yet.
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> Mid Engine
03/24/2020 at 12:16 |
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Two representatives in Congress got sick and were interviewed on television and said that Day 7 or Day 8 are the worst, according to their docs, and their experience(s) bore that out.
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boredalways
> jimz
03/24/2020 at 12:26 |
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Thought I share this with you first
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jimz
> boredalways
03/24/2020 at 12:32 |
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Doctors are human too, and can be just as irrational as anyone else when given false hope.
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boredalways
> jimz
03/24/2020 at 12:47 |
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True, but their license to practice their professions is now in jeopardy due to unethical choices. Also I find it ironic that such well educated pillars of the medical fields listen AND believed Trump enough to take these chances at great risks to themselves, their family and friends, and society as a whole.
Then again, some people may just dismiss this all as fake news.
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jimz
> boredalways
03/24/2020 at 13:01 |
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IIRC MDs aren’t as well-versed in the effects of medications as one might think. they know which ones are indicated for particular conditions and the recommended dosages. But pharmacology/pharmacy is a rather important and rigorous field as well; they’re far more steeped in contraindications, side effects, and potential interactions . There’s a reason it takes 20 minutes to get a prescription filled, and it’s not because they’re slow at counting ;)
fintail
> Hi! My Name Is Rossssssss
03/24/2020 at 13:02 |
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Can one expect anyone who listens to 45 to know the difference?
Nice whataboutism in that posting history.
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fintail
> PartyPooper2012
03/24/2020 at 13:04 |
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Especially his base, who are generally either complete idiots are are voting with what they think is their pocketbooks.